Russia Providing Ultimate Negative Obama Ad?

While I was driving for about eight hours today and hearing more about the awful Georgia/Russia situation and hearing John McCain's super-hawkish reaction to the whole thing, it made me realize that the time may be right for an ultimate October ad that would radically define something very scary about a John McCain presidency.

I'm sure we almost all know about the very first negative campaign ad, one that was supremely effective for Lyndon Johnson:

While the public is by no means eager to drop the ball on national security, it may be perhaps the time to remind everyone what exactly pugnacity and braggadocio can ultimately deliver. McCain's angry, volatile stance towards Russia can mean a renewed Cold War. Granted, it wouldn't take much pushing for Russia to welcome such tactics, but McCain has already made himself a great enemy of Vladimir Putin and would not necessarily have an international community behind him.

I think it is well worth considering this kind of tactic. Obama has been very steadfastly mentioning the importance of nuclear disarmament. This could drive home that point. We want to be safe, that is certain. But so far our war has been "over there". If Russia has good reason to attack us, it could come "over here" in a heartbeat. War can only keep us safe when it isn't happening here. That hasn't happened since Pearl Harbor (I refuse to call 9/11 anything but a criminal act). Let's remind people of that fact.



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hmmm - not sure i agree. (2.00 / 1)

i think they both bungled this one.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:33:35 AM EST

Re: hmmm - not sure i agree. (2.00 / 1)

But at least Obama didn't automatically respond by making threats. Suppose McCain was actually in office. What would he have done?

The greatest danger of Iran is that Russia may decide to back it. That turns it from a dangerous Middle Eastern situation into World War III. Like I said, the last one barely touched our soil. The last Cold War rested on the threat of mutually assured destruction. Are we ready for them to call our bluff?


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by vcalzone on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:41:16 AM EST
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Re: hmmm - not sure i agree. (none / 0)

Please forgive my inelegant language, I'm awfully punchy after the drive.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:42:17 AM EST
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There is an opportunity here. (2.00 / 2)

But nuclear disarmament is not the best means to exploit it in an ad.  To many people, they hear that as unilateral disarmament, not enemy disarmament.  Trying to get people to trust "the enemy" while at the same time scaring them about the potential of that enemy would not work very well.

One thing I've always liked about the Daisy ad is Johnson's slow monotone voice.  He sounds like somebody who isn't crazy enough to start a war, and also sober and tough enough to be ready to respond to one should it arise.  (Sadly, in fact, he gave us Vietnam and its surge... Uh, I mean escalation.)  That steady voice provided an implicit contrast to Goldwater's bellicose, confrontational style.  ("Extremism in pursuit of liberty is no vice...")  If Obama can recreate that contrast, that would be an effective way to use this moment.


by Dumbo on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:43:57 AM EST

Re: There is an opportunity here. (none / 0)

I am more interested in reminding what the consequences of nuclear war are. Vladimir Putin has, thanks to Bush's lax attention, put us in another state of detente. John McCain would not only poke the sleeping tiger, he would do so while leaving us woefully ill-prepared for any sort of strike, since he's already made it clear he is all for a war with Iran.

I was thinking of something as simple as showing a generic city smoking and still and panning to a newspaper that read something like "McCain: We Will Not Back Down".


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:54:56 AM EST
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Re: There is an opportunity here. (none / 0)

Not to mention that we KNOW an ad with this kind of scare tactic is coming from the right. We have to be ready to take the reins on national security, and this is a way to turn all their own rhetoric against them. There was no way to show a concrete danger from the war in Iraq. It had very little chance of spilling over here, despite what the GOP would have us believe. But Russia? China? That's getting dangerous.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:57:57 AM EST
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Re: There is an opportunity here. (none / 0)

They'd respond angrily and forcefully, but the message would already be delivered if the ad is visceral enough. And if, as you said, Obama used that sort of strong, steady voice to say something like "We must remain ever-vigilant. But we must always tread carefully, because the consequences of war are dire."


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 02:02:07 AM EST
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It's just too bad that... (2.00 / 1)

Johnson turned out to be the real war candidate.


by Glaurung on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 09:27:46 AM EST
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Well, Obama's whole candidacy is based on the premise that people are ready to turn the page.  If he's wrong about that, and what people really long for is to return to the good old days of the Cold War, oh well!

I honestly could not believe I saw actual Red-baiting from the McCain campaign though.

The reaction of the Obama campaign to this crisis, so at odds with our democratic allies and yet so bizarrely in sync with Moscow, doesn't merely raise questions about Senator Obama's judgment--it answers them.

I think my parents told me about this type of campaign once.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 02:18:18 AM EST

Re: Russia Providing Ultimate Negative Obama Ad? (2.00 / 1)

I think showing McCain for what he is would be very effective. As the Video on the recomended list points out McCain plans on recriting you for the wars coming. War is in his DNA. Having said this if Russia does something over the top then McCain will reap the "benefits" Rec


by Politicalslave on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 09:20:44 AM EST

The US was using (none / 0)

Georgia as a staging ground to do cross border attacks on Russia, similar to what they did with Iraq.

Russia isn't quite as naive and responded forcefully to these games.

Georgia made a huge mistake goading Russia repeatedly.

The US wanted Georgia to become a part of NATO something that Russia considered the ultimate insult.

Russia is taking care of the problem by taking back Georgia.

This is very sad for the people of that country that were very pro-Bush and pro-American. Now Georgia wonders why the US is backing down.

This whole situation was stupid. And Bush/McCain policy of poking sticks at Russia was NOT smart. Like I said Russia is not naive.


overthrow the government~participate
by missliberties on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:25:45 AM EST

I'm worried (none / 0)

that this will play exactly the opposite.  Putin is a stone player, and I'm sure McCain's looking to promote the idea that Obama's too inexperienced and naive to deal with him.  Look at Bush, who seems to honestly believe that his personal friendship with Putin ensures good faith.  Which is horseshit, Putin plays Bush like a fiddle.

Plus, the Obama camp's statement clumsily linking the crisis to their current theme of McCain's ties to lobbyists was profoundly misguided.  It was playing politics with a major international crisis.

I want him to get off his ass, come back from Hawaii, and rise to this occasion like the statesman I know he is.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:27:46 AM EST


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