Why the trackers are so close: new party ID numbers

One of the overarching questions among pollsters this year is why the tracking polls show a closer race than all of the stand-alone polls. One of the reasons cited is that the trackers don't call people back, so they continually get the same kinds of voters who answer the phone on the first pickup. That automatically limits the  sample a bit (and eliminated cell-only users).

I think that explains some of the shift.

But there is another reason too: the party ID numbers have shifted  according to Rasmussen.

Whereas in April and May, Democrats outnumbered Republicans by 10.1%, the margin is now 2.5 points closer, or 7.6%.

Since Rasmussen and Gallup (which probably uses the same party ID numbers) weights according to this scale, it explains why the horse-race numbers have tightened.

Now, the big question is why have the party ID numbers changed. I think there are a few explanations.

1) The April and May numbers were inflated with the national obsession over the continuing Democratic primary race. Many Independents thought of themselves as Democrats while observing the race. Since the primary ended, they've gone back to Independent status.

2) Republican numbers have not gained; Independent numbers have. Not only might this be loss of interest, but many Independents who voted for Clinton called themselves Democrats in April and May but no longer do.

3) A small subset may be anger over FISA and defections from the left to Independent status.

If you look at party ID patterns over the last few years, this actually looks pretty normal. In July 2004, during the DNC, Dems outnumbered Republicans by 3.0%. After the RNC, it was 0.6%. On Election Day the margin was 1.6%, with turnout and a tiny defection advantage to Bush being decisive.

In 2006, party ID advantages to the Dems started small and ballooned to 6.1% as the campaign went on and the Dems went on the attack. In 2007, it fell back a bit as the campaign season dissipated.

But then, starting in February 2008 when McCain sowed up the GOP nomination, the Democratic numbers exploded. The 10.1% numbers were unusually high.

So what does this mean?

The DNC will boost the advantage again. It always does. The RNC, coming so close the DNC, probably will not dent it as much this year. The margin will probably stay at 7.6% for a while.

The thing to watch is the percentage of Democrats coming home to Obama. If, as usually happens, the undecided Dems come home to Obama, he will get to the 90% mark that Democrats need to win.

As for comparing this to other polls, the no callback method may explain why Ras/Gallup has a tighter screen than other pollsters. The result may be, ironically, that the trackers show Obama gaining in the fall after the DNC and the stand-alones show the race getting closer.

PREDICTION: Unless some outside event fundamentally transforms the race (and no, the ad wars and minor policy shifts won't change things much), I suspect that the party ID difference will stay at around 7 to 7.5, Obama will pull in more Democrats than he is getting now, Obama's better turnout operation will boost his numbers by a point or two, and he will win by about 3.5 or 4 points.



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Re: Why the trackers are so close... (2.00 / 1)

Nice diary with a solid analysis.  It also exlains to a degree what John McCain is hoping to accomplish by throwing out all that red meat for the Republican base this past week.

Reced.


by hello world on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 11:01:12 AM EST

Re: Why the trackers are so close (none / 0)

the DNC and our own senators and congresspersons are not respected.  They seem to be guarding their own asses, rather than putting the country first. Nancy impeachment off the table is one example.  Voting for John Roberts made some Democrats change party affiliation.

Democrats are disappointed in the DNC, and they're showing it, by registering independent.  People are trying to get heard, and it's hard to get heard these days by our party, they've been rather rude about it too.  

The polls show what's true, that Barack may win, neither of them has hit 50 percent, but that he's far from closing the deal with the public.  He needs to listen to that, with no excuses, he got the nomination and his job is to win the GE.  

He has to think, what in my message isn't working?

Democrats don't want a pesonality president as much as they want a competent one, who can learn from mistakes and who will chose the running mate best able to help win the GE. He needs to 'get over' his own 'comfortable' zone ,that doesn't play well with people who go to work at awful jobs every day to feed their kids and do not have the luxury of working only with those they feel 'comfortable' with. That who he's comfortable with and it's entirely up to him stuff does not play with working Americans.  

You prove you're not an elitist by getting the job done, and not even considering your own comfort zone.  That's a concept that sounds Martian to working Americans.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 11:35:52 AM EST

Re: Why the trackers are so close (2.00 / 2)

I agree that voters want competence more than anything else. Certainly, that was the appeal of Hillary Clinton.

The best example of competence is Obama's campaign: he knows how to manage it and stay out of debt. If he runs the country that way, we'll be in great shape.

But he is now back to townhalls and issues - especially domestic issues.  McCain, on the other hand, is wasting his time bloviating about Britney Spears and making up fairytales about Landstuhl.


by elrod on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 02:05:43 PM EST
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Re: Why the trackers are so close (none / 0)

sort of true, that's a lot of what he has to demonstrate with, but it's not a real show of what he may or can do, and no campaign is managed that well. And there is another possibility demonstration, how he manages the convention to include Hillary supporters, and how he selects his running mate.

I go back to that great story in the NYT about his 300 foreign policy advisors, and him taking daily tutorials on intricacies within issues.  

For me, that was a pleasure to read. I had always assumed that he'd run on competence, which would be shown by his organization that can take over on day one, and by being clear about his own priorities and about keeping quiet if he doesn't know something well enough to wing it.  That's like asking him to be gaff proof, which isn't probably possible, but taking what he says very seriously.

Instead he's running on leadership style, working for consensus, making party affiliation less important because he'll give jobs to both parties.  

This is a theory, it hasn't been shown to work, but it's what most  Americans want, someone who can work with anybody and respect all opinions, and in so doing, not create hate and enemies.

The best way he could show this would be to ask Hillary onto his ticket, that would be a real compromise, to reach those who voted for her.  And it would show he means what he says. I see no other way to show that, and it's the base of his candidacy.  That he's for getting along with everyone.

He claims that she's already so divisive that others will hate him for selecting her, but he's wrong.  He needs to look at the polls more carefully, even Republicans can accept her, because of the competence, because she's worked to get where she is.  And he needs to take responsibility for his campaign promises, that he can unite, that he can inspire cooperation and not hate. If he can inspire his younger supporters to embrace Hilary as his running mate, he'll have shown quite a bit.  Maybe FISA and offshore drilling was an experiment, to see if his followers still stick with him when he takes a 'consensus' position he and they don't truly agree with.

Anyway, I hope he listens, today was another 45/45 tie day.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 02:29:02 PM EST
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Re: I love (2.00 / 1)

 the conclusion: a big Obama win.  


"But not me personally were those cheers for"
by QTG on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 01:52:03 PM EST

You forgot to mention that 56% of independents (none / 0)

wish for a 3rd party! That does not bode well for Obama. I'm one of them... been a democrat for 40 yrs and have changed affiliation to independent after the May 31st coup.

I will not be voting for either of them but I truly believe that they will break for McCain simply because people, in a time of war, feel more comfortable with the devil they know than take a chance with someone like Obama who has next to no foreign policy experience!


by suzieg on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 01:53:18 PM EST

This is 2008, not 2004 (2.00 / 2)

People aren't thinking about war right now. They are thinking about the economy. That's why Obama's trip abroad didn't move the polls very much, even though Maliki embraced Obama's Iraq plan, and Obama looked smart on Afghanistan.

There are always people who want a third party. But it never materializes. So Independents either pick one of the major party choices, stay home, or vote for some minor candidate. There are just as many disaffected Republicans defecting to Barr as there are disaffected Democrats going to Nader.  


by elrod on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 02:03:36 PM EST
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You might have a point if... (2.00 / 1)

...it the war was still the number one issue. Everybody is far more concerned about the economy and since Obama leads on that by double digits in every poll I think you are going to be disappointed.


by conspiracy on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 02:06:24 PM EST
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Re: You forgot to mention that 56% of independents (none / 0)

Who gives a shit who you're voting for. If you are here on a site dedicated to electing democrats, and stating you are not, then you are a TROLL.


by venician on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 07:42:54 PM EST
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Re: Why the trackers are so close: new party ID nu (none / 0)

Great diary, on a day of dismal diaries. Let's get this rec'd and up the list


by duende on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 06:04:55 PM EST


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