Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7

You've got to hand it to Duncan, who called it some time ago. It turns out Barack Obama was incorrect -- John McCain and his family have eight homes, not seven. The Politico has the story:

John McCain's family owns at least eight properties -- not the seven Democrats are alleging or the four McCain's staff identified -- according to a Politico analysis of property and tax records, as well as interviews.

This ought to keep the story brewing for another few hours...



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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

See, no wonder McCain is confused... Then you have that estate in Sedona with 6 houses.. I mean, how do we count those?  It's awfully hard to remember when you have so many houses.


by leshrac55 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 05:40:35 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

Don't forget about the private jet, after all, it is the only way to travel.


by gavoter on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:03:37 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

Can we count that as a house? You could totally live on it. Let's count it as a house and a plane. And it taxis. Let's count it as a bus.


by Cincinnatus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:16:50 AM EST
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Here I thought it was 10... (none / 0)

...but Issa tried to trot out the Rezko thing again, so expect this to keep going...


by grannyhelen on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 05:48:01 PM EST

What? Obama was wrong? (none / 0)

Clearly unfit for command if he can't accurately discern the extent of Cindy McCain's ridiculous level of wealth.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 05:50:41 PM EST

I Heard 10 (none / 0)

I heard that McCain owns ten houses and resides in at least four of them.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 05:54:25 PM EST

Re: I Heard 10 (none / 0)


by TCQuad on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:00:20 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

This quote had me in hysterics:

"Americans don't like this class warfare stuff," the official said. They aspire to be rich, the official said. They don't aspire to eat arugala or hang out with celebrities.

From Ambinder.

I'll go as far agreeing that eating arugala is not high on the American publics' aspiration list.  

There's probably no tape of McCain eating arugala.  But as for hanging with celebs...


A drink whenever Palin makes a Well-argued, Semantically Intact, Logical and Lucid Argument -- or WASILLA for short.
by January 20 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 05:58:29 PM EST

I wish we'd saved this - - (none / 0)

if we could have timed it better (could we have?), because the VP announcement will step on the story - -


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:01:39 PM EST

Re: I wish we'd saved this - - (none / 0)

This one really isn't orchestrated by Obama or the DNC... the folks over at Camp McCain clearly aren't really aware of the First Rule of Holes, so this stuff just keeps coming out of the hole.


by auronrenouille on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:51:01 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

I want to see the McCain camp spin this.  "See Obama is wrong, we have 8 houses, not 7."

Of course I love the spin they are trying to put on this by saying that he doesn't own them, Cindy does.    Does anyone really accept that as an answer?   The houses belong to my rich wife?   I thought that for Republicans marriage was always a sacred union between a man and a woman where everything became the property of the man.   Oh well, I guess I was wrong there too.

I still can not believe that so many PUMAs still love this man.


by gavoter on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:02:39 PM EST

Actually, Does Mother-in-Law Trust John? (none / 0)

The McCain family probably owns about 10 houses of which they reside in four of them. That's why McCain knew that he owned at least four homes.

Of the other six homes, some were probably in Cindy's family before their marriage as investment instruments. Now, Cindy's parents probably have a smart Estate Planning Attorney who noticed that McCain was a good liar and cheated on his first wife. They wanted the property to be passed onto Cindy's children and not to McCain's and his first wife's children. Thus, they probably hold the property in trust or only in Cindy's name by a community property agreement


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:26:13 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

Obama's VP better be living in a one room shack lol...


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:15:51 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

Oh god let McCain pick Romney as his VP.  All we need is for him to put a billionaire on the ticket and it will be something we can hit him on until November.


by Skaje on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:16:09 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

What exactly is wrong with being wealthy?


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:19:23 PM EST
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What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

argula?  C'mon lori, it's silly season but if we come out even on questions of who's out of touch, that's a victory for us.


by Blazers Edge on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:26:38 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

Nothing is wrong with eating arugula .

If I could afford to buy 7 houses , I would lol .

The whole he has 7 houses attack seem a little bizarre to me.

I know its an attempt to paint him as " out of touch " but it just seems like a line that would fall flat or backfire in my view .

It is possible it would diminish Obama himself , he would have been better off to stay away from it and let surrogates do it.

You are right it is silly season and I don't know how many votes it moves , looks like a 1 day story to me and a situation in which obama might win the 1 or 2 day battle and eventually lose more.

But I take your point about making the whole elite line a wash .


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:35:02 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

In your world everything is bad for Obama.


by Fistjab on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:38:04 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

Not really.....


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:40:09 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

Even though people are flinging poo at you, I will throw my two cents in.

Just last night I was talking to a good friend of mine that the "out of touch" theme would be great for democrats to use against McCain.  Any other approach leads right into the POW thing and the number one rule in our universe "A republican may call you a lazy, unamerican, piece of dog crap and that is just telling it how it is but if a Democrat says you smell funny then they are lazy, unamerican, or a piece of dog crap".

In summary, I think that line of attack could work from here until November.  If it wasn't so dangerous to McCain he wouldn't have started firing away with Rezko, Ayers, and Wright already.

For the record, I don't think you piece of dog crap, just a little bit of a downer sometimes:)


by Xris on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:44:47 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

" For the record, I don't think you piece of dog crap, just a little bit of a downer sometimes:) "

- That means a lot coming from you lol

For the record I have been called a piece of crap by  2 people that shall remain nameless in the last two weeks.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:53:49 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

Out of touch is the best narrative beat maccain over the head with till the election. not that you would like that to happen Lori.

OUT.OF.TOUCH.RICH.ELITIST >>>
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind- the-numbers/2008/08/more_in-tune_voters_ lean_obama.html?hpid=topnews


by Fistjab on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:49:33 PM EST
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The Obama campaign (none / 0)

had to jump on McCain's comments; it plays into too many narratives for them not to (e.g. forgetfulness, elitism, etc.) just as a careless comment about Israel or America would play into narratives about Obama (remember how they tried to twist Obama's "constant sore" comment).

I am also concerned as to whether Obama hurts his brand by bringing up McCain's houses himself; it seems though that the media would have ignored surrogates if Obama didn't bring it up.  I thought McCain would hurt his brand by using that "rather lose a war to win a campaign" line himself but his favorable numbers weren't hurt and he cut into Obama's lead.  So perhaps Obama won't take a hit for going "negative."

It's completely fair game though I think McCain may have bit too hard with Rezko.  Thomas Keating will be introduced to the American population very soon.


by Blazers Edge on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:44:43 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

I am very disappointed. This can't be the best Obama can do. I think McCains hit back was more damaging from the sound bit perspective with the Rezko thing.

Also, yes, Obama should have his surrogates do the attack, will he stays clean and on-message. Notice that the McCain hit back was by a campaign official.

And now Obama and Co. is chasing the wrong message. It shouldn't be that McCain is out of touch because he doesn't know how many houses he has (and BTW, the ad should have stopped at 4, because that's how many residences there are), but because if he were concerned for the plight of those trying to keep their 1 home, or with no home, he wouldn't dare say things like skip a vacation.

Being rich and not knowing how many homes you have doesn't make you out of touch, but callous expressions do. That's where they should have nailed him. But they missed ...as they have on every hit.

Look at the one they did on the economy. McCain was quick to knock that one down by saying the quotes were old. The way to have made that one stick would have been to have shown financial news that corresponds with McCains statements, or with quotes by Obama or finance and economics experts that were in disagreement with McCain's statements.

They really have to start doing a better job. They are sucking at the hits.


by bg108 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:12:47 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

If I could afford to buy 7 houses, I would donate a lot of it to charity. Does that make me a better person than you? I think it does.


by Cincinnatus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:18:59 AM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (1.50 / 2)

I would think it is not a secret most politicians are wealthy .

Pelosi , Kerry , Rockefella , Kennedy  etc all are very wealthy , probably have a couple of houses and jets .

Even Obama aspires to be wealthy with his book sales etc.

So whats the big deal ?...

I don't think it moves any votes .


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:38:51 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

Celebrity and out of touch.

These are the Themes by which John McCain has decided that this campaign must and will be run.  For almost a month now, every word out of John McCains mouth has been that Obama is a rich elitist who doesn't understand the common man.

How many 'common men' own 6 or 7 or 10 houses?   Not many.   The few people I know that own more than one house can definitely tell you how many that they own.

Are you going to try and tell me that some poor working family living in some hollow in Eastern Tennessee is going to consider a man that owns 10 houses and a private jet to be one of them?  

You are correct that negative ads are not going to necessarily bring people to support Obama, but they could keep people from supporting McCain.  Negative ads are designed to kill votes, not move votes.


by gavoter on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:58:23 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

Hey be careful how you talk about my neck of the woods . ( I am from East Tennessee and there are no hollows here ).

Sure you can attempt to paint Mccain as out of touch , infact Obama has been doing that well by linking him to Bush .

However talking about someone else's homes in terms of politics just seems unseemly to me , at least as a southerner .

He made his charge in VA , right next door , who knows it might work for him.

It is weird that he doesn't know the number of homes or houses he has but a politician who brings his opponents homes into a political debate should tread carefully.

If it helps neutralize the supposed " elitist " charge which wasn't really sticking then he would have accomplished what he wanted.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:08:46 PM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

Well we wouldn't want to offend your delicate southern sensibilities.


by Cincinnatus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:20:38 AM EST
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Re: What's wrong with eating (none / 0)

uprated for HR abuse


by slynch on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:31:26 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

Nothing inherently wrong with it, but it kinda neutralizes any elitist line of attack against Obama.  Seriously...the man cannot remember how many houses he owns.  If you can't see how that's a valid line of attack...oh well.


by Skaje on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:57:04 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

Like I said in Lori's world everything is bad for Obama or "concerning". just read his/her past posts and it is clear where this posters intentions lie.


by Fistjab on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:01:09 PM EST
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McCain's office threatened (none / 0)

OK, who wants to bet that the office sent themselves this mysterious letter.

Or maybe the FBI was after the wrong person all along in the earlier anthrax case.


by gavoter on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:17:57 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

What's wrong with not knowing how many homes your wife's trust has invested in?

This kind of thing didn't stop the Dems from nominating John "Magic Hat" Kerry.


by dualdiagnosis on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:28:11 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

What does this have to do with Obama and McCain?


by Cincinnatus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:21:49 AM EST
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McCain has ZERO houses (none / 0)

You've all got it wrong, McCain has 0 houses since they belong to his wife.  That's the latest from his campaign.  You'd think he wouldn't have trouble remembering that he has no houses.


by evap on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:36:48 PM EST

Re: McCain has ZERO houses (none / 0)

McCain is homeless? So he can feel our pain!


by Cincinnatus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:22:21 AM EST
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Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

Watching the news...here in Denver
envelope with white powder found at McCain Campaign office in Centennial Co (suburb of Denver)
Guys with white suite scurrying around..
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:39:19 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

here ya go...

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?s toryid=98099&catid=339


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:40:22 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

and here
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/172 58553/detail.html

and here

http://cbs4denver.com/local/john.mccain. hazmat.2.800520.html

"You know it's gonna get stranger,
so let's get on with the show..Let's go"

...Grateful Dead


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:45:57 PM EST

9 KEY RINGS (none / 0)

HEY SOMEONE POST THIS FRONT PAGE, AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE CONVENTION MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!  

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydusFDKdE 4o&eurl=http://talkingpointsmemo.com /archives/209622.php


by RuralD on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:24:47 PM EST

Re: Obama's Wrong; McCain Has 8 Houses, Not 7 (none / 0)

My name is Elmer J...er... John Sidney McCain.  Millionaire.  I own some mansions and a jet.  Bwahahaha


by Khun David on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:13:14 AM EST


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